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Say we combine articles A, B, and C under the name of article A. Can B and C be somehow converted into redirects, Wikipedia style, so that links to them from other articles don't become dead?
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That is a god question. I wonder that too.
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(07-10-2018, 02:39 PM)Crossroads Wrote: Say we combine articles A, B, and C under the name of article A. Can B and C be somehow converted into redirects, Wikipedia style, so that links to them from other articles don't become dead?

I think it would depend on how the combination was performed and the type of link.

If B and C were directly copy/pasted into A, including their in text hyperlinks, those links should be copy/pasted along with them. From there B and C would need to be modified to flow together with A and each other.

However, the links that appear at the end of the articles are managed via a different system and would not be transferred. They would have to be re-established manually. The good news is that (in my experience) in most cases where we are merging articles, there is a lot of overlap in the linked articles. As such, a lot of the links would already be in place for A. It is also very easy to establish article links and those that were not held in common could be added very quickly to the final article. Since the B and C articles wouldn't need to be deleted until we are ready, it would be pretty straightforward to note what article links they have at the end, check against what A has, and just establish those that need to be added. Then delete or hide B and C.

No need for any links to become dead, really,

Todd
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What I was mainly asking about is, What about article X that linked to article C? Article C is now gone. Is that link in X dead? Can C be turned into a redirect for A instead?
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(07-11-2018, 01:34 PM)Crossroads Wrote: What I was mainly asking about is, What about article X that linked to article C? Article C is now gone. Is that link in X dead? Can C be turned into a redirect for A instead?

Ah, I think I see what you mean now.

If the link to C is an intext hyperlink in article X, then I think the link will be gone.

If it's a case of article C is linked to from the list of related articles at the end of X, the editor could shift it over to the new combined article as part of the update process.

I'm not sure what is involved in generating redirects like what you describe. That would be a Trond (our Webmaster) question. I don't know if that would be an easy change or a hard change or is somehow not a factor due to the way the CMS already operates. I suppose we can ask him.

Todd
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(07-11-2018, 01:48 PM)Drashner1 Wrote:
(07-11-2018, 01:34 PM)Crossroads Wrote: What I was mainly asking about is, What about article X that linked to article C? Article C is now gone. Is that link in X dead? Can C be turned into a redirect for A instead?

Ah, I think I see what you mean now.

If the link to C is an intext hyperlink in article X, then I think the link will be gone.

If it's a case of article C is linked to from the list of related articles at the end of X, the editor could shift it over to the new combined article as part of the update process.

I'm not sure what is involved in generating redirects like what you describe. That would be a Trond (our Webmaster) question. I don't know if that would be an easy change or a hard change or is somehow not a factor due to the way the CMS already operates. I suppose we can ask him.

Todd

I think if you guys ask Trond that would help a lot. If redirects are possible probably impacts how aggressively we merge articles. If redirects are not possible, tracking down 'what links to this page' will be quite difficult.
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