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New user + what is up with all the mentions of fractals?
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(03-10-2023, 03:19 PM)Drashner1 Wrote: You seem to be thinking of the tidal forces as running uniformly through the wormhole and that's not what's happening. While there is a certain amount of extra tidal force running through the wormhole, the effect I'm describing is one of extremely strong forces concentrated in a specific region (a spherical shell) that increases in strength and appears to move inward toward a ship from all directions as it transits the wormhole. At the Throat of the wormhole, this spherical region achieves its maximal force and smallest size. If the ship is larger in any dimension than the smallest size of the Throat, the part extending beyond the Throat will experience massive tidal forces and be ripped part.

However, if the ship is smaller than that smallest size in all dimensions it will only experience the lower level of tidal forces and not be harmed during its transit of the wormhole.

If the wormhole Throat is only 2 km across and the ship is only 1.5 km long, then no part of it will fall within the zone of extreme tidal stress and it will simply transit through without issue. However, if the ship is 3km long, then the front and rear 500m of its structure will both be subject to massive tidal forces and be ripped apart (which seems likely to void the warranty for the rest of the ship as well.

Think of it (to use a not wholly accurate, but hopefully easy to visualize) like the eye of a hurricane. If you're in the eye, it's a beautiful sunny day - if you're outside the eye, things are much less pleasant. Now imagine you have a really long train of railway cars that is long enough that part of it extends beyond the eye into the body of the hurricane. The part in the storm is not going to find things as nice as the part inside the eye.


I don't get this. Of course the tidal forces aren't spread evenly through the WH, but what does the center of the ship have to do with their distribution? To a piece of the ship on the edge of the ship, the "bubble"/"eye wall" of highest force should be centered around it and not the center of the ship. If you're sure that it has to be centered on the middle of the ship, why is it centered there? (To use your hurricane analogy, why does the hurricane follow the train?) And why do the tidal forces seem to suddenly jump up from "not much" to "molecular dissociation" at the edge of the "bubble"? I had thought that the "bubble" you're talking about is actually the point where the accumulated tidal stress over the whole ship up to that point gets to be too much for the stuff in between, and that stuff breaks away. I see no reason for it to disintegrate once it's detached. Sure, the ship is going to fragment, but what's so special about the center of the ship for your tidal "eye wall" to be centered around it specifically???

I am so confused! Huh Huh Huh
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RE: New user + what is up with all the mentions of fractals? - by ExabyteMiner256 - 03-10-2023, 04:33 PM

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