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Supercritical Carbon Dioxide as a Solvent for Life - Vaktus - 11-20-2018 https://www.mdpi.com/2075-1729/4/3/331/htm This paper explores the possibility for supercritical CO2 as a solvent for alien lifeforms, and the results are promising. Apparently, Enzymes in scCO2 would be more stable and less likely to produce side reactions than using water as a solvent. Enzymes would also would be able to keep "memories" of previous ligands bound to it when kept in scCO2. Could this be used in OA by a biosphere in a cytherian world? scCO2 does cover the surface of venus. RE: Supercritical Carbon Dioxide as a Solvent for Life - Drashner1 - 11-20-2018 I'm also curious about this. Biology is not my area of focus, but whether as part of the T'oul'h ecology or a different world(s), this could be a cool, and potentially hard science, kind of thing. Todd RE: Supercritical Carbon Dioxide as a Solvent for Life - Vaktus - 11-20-2018 (11-20-2018, 12:02 PM)Drashner1 Wrote: I'm also curious about this. Biology is not my area of focus, but whether as part of the T'oul'h ecology or a different world(s), this could be a cool, and potentially hard science, kind of thing. Recently, I have been kind of trying to compile a biosphere for many different worlds and keeping it in line with OA. I actually plan on putting some additions to the Muuh article for their biology and biosphere sometime soon. RE: Supercritical Carbon Dioxide as a Solvent for Life - stevebowers - 11-21-2018 This book should help The Limits of Organic Life in Planetary Systems especially this chapter https://www.nap.edu/read/11919/chapter/8#76 Quote:Supercriticality in an environment does not, in itself, prohibit life. Some terran enzymes are known to be active in supercritical fluids.(30)-(32) Subsequent reviews can be found in Aaltonen and Rantakyla,(33) Kamat et al.,(34) and Aaltonen.(35) Although most of that work concerns supercritical carbon dioxide as the solvent, fluorinated hydrocarbons (HCF3) and simple alkanes (e.g., ethane, propane) have also been reported,(36) providing a formal demonstration that terran-derived proteins can function in these media. Any enzyme adapted to the supercritical media would undoubtedly be different from those used in the studies cited. RE: Supercritical Carbon Dioxide as a Solvent for Life - Vaktus - 11-21-2018 (11-21-2018, 12:32 AM)stevebowers Wrote: This book should help Wow, thanks Steve! If it's true that it's dielectric, this is what our mitochondria uses to created compounds with lots of energy and communication between cells. Very useful for life indeed. I've glossed over the chapter, and I find it interesting that silicon-based life could use liquid nitrogen as a solvent. I Looked at the reference for that section and apparently liquid nitrogen would work great with silanes and silinols. A silicon-based life vastly different from rheolithoids is possible. Perhaps these life forms could live deep in cryovolcanos that spew liquid nitrogen and have quarts crystals in their cells to gain piezoelectricity from mechanical stress? |