(08-17-2021, 11:38 PM)Drashner1 Wrote: Unfortunately, I am not a master of the quote function - it didn't work well in an earlier version of the forum and I developed a workaround I still use to this day. But one of the other members or moderators here might be able to offer advise on this.

In the meantime we won't take your head off for including some quoted text (we mostly do that a good bit, but try to trim out the parts we aren't directly replying to).



Yes, this would be fine.



I'm going to have to refer this question to those members of the community who are into exotic biology. Not my area of expertise/interest/focus, I'm afraid.

Anyone who wants to weigh in on this question, please feel free.

Archailect writ runs thin in the Outer Volumes and Periphery - but that also means there's little to no protection against everything else running around out there - including rogue transapients and modosphonts who may be quite...unpleasant. Also note that the 'Civilized Galaxy' is constantly expanding into the outer regions, which themselves are constantly expanding. So someone living out in those regions will eventually have the 'Civilized Galaxy' catch up with them.

If you're thinking in terms of a civ wanting to be left alone to live an energy conserving lifestyle, a political solution might be a better option  - meaning being part of the Negentropy Alliance say, which is unlikely to object to their way of being as long as they don't go nuts on the population growth front.

Ok - gotta start my work day.

Hope this helps,

Todd

(08-17-2021, 11:22 PM)Rho Ophiuchi Wrote: On a slightly different note, what is the highest temperature genetically-engineered humans that were originally baselines could plausibly live in? Could a clade of genetically-engineered humans exist on a supercritical pyrohydrothallasic world, for instance? Also, would there be a region on the fringe of human colonization where the archailects had no influence due to being temporally disconnected from those locations (e.g. at a radius of 9000 light-years or so)?

(08-17-2021, 10:49 PM)first quote Wrote:

(08-17-2021, 09:59 PM)Second quote you want deleted. Wrote: also condsider all of the energy that might go to non-human infrastructure.

(08-17-2021, 10:49 PM)first quote Wrote:

(08-17-2021, 10:49 PM)second quote Wrote:

(08-17-2021, 10:49 PM)3rd quote Wrote:

(10-16-2005, 04:39 AM)4rth quote you want deleted. Wrote: or make many quotes within quotes

Deleting the quote inside another quote , or copying it and altering the authorship, would involve highlighting the text when going back in full edit mode and deleting the highlighted text. 

or post a reply to a post, then go back in using quick edit and you'll see the markup language around text like [ quote= 'first quote' pid='64526' dateline= '1629204559' ] [ / q u o t e ]

The Astronomer Wrote:Past the first few thousand years from today or so most Terragens have the option to simply upload and download themselves into new bodies whenever they want to change their bodies, so the limit is simply how high temperature one could design a functional body template for. Exactly how hot it could go is something we don't know, but we do have descriptions for organisms living in magmatic environment - see the Rheolithoids - and even more extreme environments.

The edge of the Terragen Sphere, IIRC, is some 7,600 ly away, although I don't think this takes the displacement of wormholes further from the center into the future into account. Either way, no matter how far away you may be, it's dubious that there is anywhere in the Terragen Sphere that's truly devoid of archailect influence. At least that's how I understand the situation anyway.

selden Wrote:Rho Ophiucihi,

Welcome to OA!

You don’t have to write your posts by using only the tools provided by the forum software. You also can write a (plain) text file on your computing device and then copy and paste the results into your post. Indeed, editing a long document in the forum software over the network can be unreliable. I know people who’ve lost hours of work due to a network or server glitch.

Instead, you can use  whatever text editing tools you are comfortable with. Note I used the terms “plain text” and “text editing”. The binary formatting codes generated by tools like Microsoft Word, iPad Notes, etc. are not compatible with the forum software. You should use something like emacs or Microsoft’s Notepad. (There are many others, some unique to each type of computing device.) To control formatting, the forum software does textual markup by using (a subset of) BBCode. There are extensive documents available on the Web describing the BBCode markup language.

I hope this helps a little.

Dfleymmes1134 Wrote:Welcome to OA! 


but Selden's advice is definitely good for longer posts. or save a post as a draft halfway through writing it. 
the more casual conversation happens in Discord

(08-18-2021, 12:41 AM)Rho Ophiuchi Wrote: Thank you for the information; I was referring more to the maximum temperature of lifeforms based on something similar to traditional biochemistry (proteins, etc.). Still, the page you linked was very interesting and informative.

(08-18-2021, 12:41 AM)BBC article Wrote: Conditions are so challenging that no complex organisms can survive them. Animals generally struggle when they are exposed to temperatures much above 50C – true even of the Pink Pompeii worms that live next to deep-sea hydrothermal vents spewing out water at 400C onto the ocean floor.
Desulfurella acetivorans, for instance, is a bacterium that thrives in pools at 58C. It feeds on organic acetate in the pool. Rather than breathing oxygen, these microbes get their energy from volcanic sulphur through a process known as sulphur reduction.

Then there is Thermoproteus uzoniensis. This new species of archaea was found thriving in the hot springs, steam vents, mud holes and soils in the Uzon Caldera and Geyser Valley.
The rod-shaped microbes can survive in waters close to boiling point by feeding on the fermented remains of organic molecules called peptides. They also use sulphur reduction for energy. Scientists believe that strains of closely related T. uzoniensis are so common across the region because they are being carried between pools by wind, water, birds or even bears.
Acidilobus aceticus is so named because of the extreme acidity – pH2 – of the hot spring in which it was found. The acidic water was also very hot, at 92C. The microbe feeds on fermented starch and, again, uses sulphur to power its metabolism.

(08-18-2021, 01:11 AM)Dfleymmes1134 Wrote: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160209-this-is-how-to-survive-if-you-spend-your-life-in-boilin-water

the hottest temperatures we -know- organic, water-soluble life can exist in would be right below boiling temperature 100 C




as for in Orions arm,
there's probably some extremophile clades or tweaks which aren't described yet in detail AFAIK- though clades adapted to a vacuum environment can probably withstand higher temperatures 

To'ul'h has a lot of organisms that we'd consider extremophiles living in a high temperature environment as well
https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/48f71d38d2c56

(08-18-2021, 01:32 AM)Rho Ophiuchi Wrote: Thank you for the links - I am basically imagining a planet (colonized by terragens) with a smooth transition between the atmosphere and ocean, above water's critical point. As that is way higher than the article you mentioned (I am thinking around 400 C as a surface temperature, on a planet about half supercritical water by mass), could a cyborg clade work?